Welcome to Episode 2 of Season 4! In this episode I speak with Dr. Joan E. Taylor, Professor Emerita of Christian Origins and Second Temple Judaism at King’s College, London and Honorary Professor at Australian Catholic University in Melbourne, Australia. She is a remarkable scholar with wide-ranging expertise of the historical Jesus, the Bible, early Christianity, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and Second Temple Judaism, with special expertise in archaeology, and women’s and gender studies.
I’m only going to give you a few of the titles of her many books:
Christians and the Holy Places: The Myth of Jewish Christian Origins (Oxford: Clarendon, 1993; rev. ed. 2003).
The Immerser: John the Baptist within Second Temple Judaism (Grand Rapids, Mich.: Eerdmans, 1997; also published as John the Baptist: A Historical Study (London: SPCK, 1997).
Jewish Women Philosophers of First-Century Alexandria – Philo’s ‘Therapeutae’ Reconsidered (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2003; paperback edition 2006).
The Essenes, the Scrolls and the Dead Sea (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2012).
What Did Jesus Look Like? (Bloomsbury T&T Clark, 2018).
with David Hay, Philo of Alexandria: On the Contemplative Life (Philo of Alexandria Commentary Series, Leiden: Brill, 2021).
with Helen Bond, Women Remembered: Jesus’ Female Disciples (Hodder & Stoughton, 2022).
And most recently, and the book we will discuss today: Boy Jesus: Growing Up Judean in Turbulent Times (Zonderban Academic, 2025).
I’ve utilized Dr. Taylor’s research on a regular basis, especially her material on the Dead Sea Scrolls and on Philo of Alexandria and the Therapeutae. Today however we are going to be focused on her new book Boy Jesus. I found the book fascinating and challenging and I think you’ll hear that as we discuss it. It’s fascinating and challenging because it asks us to use our imaginations and to take seriously the infancy narratives as containing historical memory and to ask ourselves what if these events described in the infancy narratives were based in historical events.
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John W. Martens
Director, Centre for Christian Engagement